In this exclusive interview with Birch Gold Group, former Congressman
Ron Paul shares his opinions on a number of topics, including investing
in physical gold and silver, the future of the U.S. dollar and the role
of the Federal Reserve. Read the full transcript below, or listen to
the recorded version located below Congressman Paul’s photo
Rachel Mills for Birch Gold Group (BGG): This is Rachel Mills for Birch Gold Group. I am speaking with Ron Paul today. How are you, Ron Paul?
Ron Paul (RP): I am doing very well. Nice to talk to you Rachel.
BGG: It’s good to talk to you again, and by the way
of information for Birch’s audience, I was your last press secretary on
Capitol Hill in Congress and I worked for you for the 5 years. So I may
be cheating a little bit because a lot of your answers to my questions I
maybe have a pretty good guess at what you might say.
BGG: But, just really quick – today with you I’d
like to go over several things. But I’d like to ask your opinion on
things like Janet Yellen as the next Fed Chair, about debt ceiling and
shutdown issues. I want to get into, briefly, if you are still a buyer
of gold even though it is so “expensive”. But first I wanted to
introduce Birch Gold’s listeners to your background a little bit because
I think it’s fascinating. In 1971, Nixon closed the gold window which
led to the end of the Bretton Woods agreement. That was very important
event for you, I know for sure, because you knew at the time that it
would eventually destroy the currency, which we are still experiencing.
And you said that that was what got you into politics to begin with. Had
you been reading Austrian economists before that?
RP: Yes, for a good while. As a matter of fact, it
was 1971, there was confirmation of the Austrian economic writers who
had been predicting that would happen as early as Henry Hazlitt said
when the IMF was set up in 1945. He said it wouldn’t work and Bretton
Woods would break down. And by the 50′s and the 60′s people were
rejecting it and it was so artificial and it was fragile. So people did
know that it was coming, and mainly it was coming because the
governments pretended that the dollar would be as good as gold at $35 an
ounce forever, yet they kept printing dollars and it was pretty simple
logic to figure out there’ll be a limit. The governments worked real
hard to convince the people that there was no problem, that the dollar
would always be valued at $35 an ounce.
But finally the market overwhelmed. The politicians and Congresses,
and Central Banks can manipulate things for a while but eventually if
they are out of sync with the market, the market will overwhelm. And
even if the government won’t permit it legally to do it, it just drives
the whole system into the underground economy. So fixed exchange rates
and different things don’t work, they just hide the fact. But in 1971,
it was confirmation that everything that the Austrians were saying as
far back as the beginning of the Bretton Woods, that was true. And of
course we’ve been suffering the consequences from that ever since.
BGG: Yeah and I’ve heard people argue that the
dollar is doing well against other currencies. But I know for Austrians
and for people who understand gold, like you and me, that’s not much
solace because it’s all on a race to the bottom.
RP: Right and the ultimate measure of the value of
the currency is what it purchases, so gold is a good indicator long
term, I don’t think it’s a good indicator short term, because there are a
lot of factors, just like in the 50′s and 60′s, they were able to hold
gold at $35 an ounce when it should have been $235 an ounce! But anyway,
overall in the long term it’s what the dollar will purchase. And even
though our government tells us today there is no inflation, they are
trying to get prices to rise at at least 2% a year, yet there are some
things in our economy, the prices are soaring: the price of a bond, the
price of education, the price of medical care – all of these things are
So there is a lot of price inflation, but that’s the ultimate tests.
You can measure one currency against another, gold is a long-term
indicator. But if none of the prices were affected by printing money, it
would be no big deal. But they are and of course the major problem is
not only the price increases, it’s the malinvestment, the
overinvestment, the bubbles that form and the corrections that have to
come. That’s where the real problem is, in addition to the cost of
living going up and hurting the poor and the middle class, much more so
than it will the wealthy.
BGG: Right, which leads nicely to Janet Yellen as
the next Fed Chair, as recently has been announced. What do you think of
Janet Yellen? Do you think she’s going to solve all our problems?
RP: No, she’ll make them worse. She’s inherited a
mess, although she was a participant in the mess and she always argued
for more inflation. One thing I find a little bit interesting is that
she has a reputation for transparency. She wants to tell the markets
exactly what their decisions are early on and let the markets know what
they are doing. But if it comes true transparency, like allowing an
audit of the Federal Reserve, and letting us know who they bail out and
when they bail out and what they did in ’09 with their trillions of
dollars, and all the international transactions, there’s no way that’s
going to be permissible. Because that’s where all the power and control
is accomplished, it’s behind the scenes with the Fed on international
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